(relaxing music) – [Spokesperson] Pregnant
women are a very high priority group for influenza immunisation. Influenza immunisation is
part of good pregnancy care. If a pregnant woman catches influenza, she risks her pregnancy
and the life of her baby. Influenza causes more
hospitalizations and deaths in babies than whooping cough. – You should be immunised
against influenza each time you fall pregnant no
matter what time of the year. And it’s never too late to have it. Influenza immunisation
in pregnancy is safe and gives over 60% protection to babies. – [Spokesperson] If you’re
pregnant, be immunised.
WHOOPING COUGH HAS
BECOME AN EPIDEMIC IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. JUST THIS WEEK IT HAS
CLAIMED THE LIFE OF A NEWBORN, THE 7th BABY TO DIE IN
THE STATE THIS YEAR. JOINING ME TO EXPLAIN
WHAT IS GOING ON IS KPBS INVESTIGATIVE
REPORTER. WHY ARE WE SEEING SO MANY CASES? FIRST OF ALL THIS IS
A CYCLICAL DISEASE. IT TENDS TO HAPPEN
EVERY 5 YEARS. THERE IS RESEARCH
OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT SUGGESTS PERHAPS THIS
VACCINE IS LOSING A LITTLE BIT OF BUNCH. THE BACTERIA CAUSING THE
ILLNESS MAY BE MUTATING. THE VACCINE ISN’T
100% EFFECTIVE. AND THIRDLY, A LOT OF
PEOPLE HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THIS DISEASE. THEY DON’T REALIZE THAT AS
YOUR CHILDREN GET OLDER THEY NEED BOOSTERS. IMMUNITY DOES NOT
LAST A LIFETIME. YOU NEED A BOOSTER SHOT. WHO IS MOST ATT RISK? REALLY IT IS BABIES. THEY CAN’T BE FULLY IMMUNIZED
UNTIL THEY ARE SIX MONTHS OLD. I SPOKE WITH A DOCTOR
ABOUT THAT ISSUE. I’LL JUST SAY THAT THE
REASON WE ARE IN SORT OF AN URGENT PUBLIC HEALTH
SITUATION RIGHT NOW IS THAT SEVEN INFANTS
HAVE DIED IN CALIFORNIA SINCE JANUARY OF 2010. WHILE IT IS ALWAYS A
TRAGEDY WHEN AN INFANT DIED, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE DYING FROM A VACCINE PREVENTABLE
ILLNESS, WE COULD KEEP THEM FROM DYING, WE NEED TO ADDRESS
THIS AT EVERY LEVEL WE CAN. YOU TALKED ABOUT BOOSTER SHOTS. HOW OFTEN DO YOU NEED THEM? IF YOU DON’T HAVE
IT WHAT DO YOU DO? RIGHT NOW MOST PARENTS
KNOW THAT THEIR CHILDREN UNDER SIX NEED FIVE
DOSES OF THIS VACCINE. NOW THERE IS RECOMMENDATION
SAYING MIDDLE SCHOOL AGED KIDS SHOULD RECEIVE A BOOSTER. THE STATE LEGISLATURE
IS LOOKING AT A BILL THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. FOR ADULTS A LOT OF PEOPLE
KNOW WHAT A TETANUS SHOT IS. THAT IS ACTUALLY A
WHOOPING COUGH BOOSTER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[UPBEAT MUSIC] Time for a flu shot! Oh look who’s here. Hi! – You nervous? Barely noticed it. It’s important for all employees to get
the flu vaccine because we put our patients first and patients do better
and are at less risk of harm if all the employees are vaccinated. 1, 2, and 3. [CAMERA FLASH]
Why in the world would I get a flu shot?
Until a few days ago, I hadn’t. It’s a bit of an embarrassing admission for a public health professor, I must admit. But the current influenza epidemic –
along with some prompting from this week’s script editor Hillary Craddock – got me thinking: why do I find it so
easy to do nothing, when all the advice is to just go out and get a shot? It’s not as if i’m worried about the
risk of complications – this is pretty insignificant for someone like me. But like many, my default position is to
sit on my backside and do nothing until I need to. And I’m great at rationalizing this: I hate taking unfamiliar meds unless I
absolutely have to – even the occasional Advil is a tough
call! I’ve never been hit by a serious bout
of flu – why tempt fate? I don’t personally know anyone whose life has been threatened by the flu. And on top of all that, I’m told that the
current vaccine is only around 60% successful at preventing infection So why get a shot? Surely I’m okay just
doing nothing. Right? Well, maybe not. Influenza is miserable at best and life-threatening at worst. This is not
just a bad cold. And despite my fantasies, I am not
immune. What’s worse – if the flu gets me, I
become a carrier, spreading the nasty little virus around to friends and
colleagues. And that 60% protection rate?
Those are actually pretty good odds for avoiding something as
unpleasant as this year’s strains of the disease. In other words, the evidence indicates
that my arguments for not getting a flu shot are pretty lame. Ouch! Clearly, it’s time to put my risk-money
where my risk-mouth is and take the plunge. Which is why I found myself doing my bit
for the heard immunity last week and getting myself vaccinated. But did I get that shot because i
was convinced by the evidence or because i was shamed into it? I’ll swear blind by the former if asked.
Just don’t expect to me to prove it! For more information on this year’s
flu, check out the links in the video blurb below, and stay well!
The flu vaccine is given to children as a
nasal spray, rather than an injection. A nurse sprays a tiny amount of vaccine into
each nostril and there is no need for children to sniff or inhale. It’s quick and completely painless. Find out more and watch the full film at www.immunisationscotland.org.uk/childflu
>>>>JOANN: TWO YEARS AFTER A KPBS INEWS SOURCE
INVESTIGATION POST SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WELL THE WHOOPING COUGH VACCINE WORKS,
IT IS FAILING AT A HIGHER RATE THAN EXPECTED. TROUBLING NEWS IS THE COUNTRY IS ON TRACK
TO EXPERIENCE ITS WORST WHOOPING COUGH EPIDEMIC IN 50 YEARS. THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE GETTING
SICK ARE UP TO DATE WITH IMMUNIZATIONS. WE SPOKE WITH A FAMILY WHO FIRST HAD QUESTIONS
WITH THE VACCINE IN 2010. MATTHEW BRYCE WILL BE TWO IN OCTOBER.
HE’S A PRETTY TYPICAL TODDLER. THOSE ARE HIS TWO OLDER BROTHERS, JOSHUA AND
JORDAN. WE FIRST MET MATTHEW IN LATE 2010.
HE WAS SICK, RECOVERING FROM WHOOPING COUGH OR PERTUSSIS.
HIS FAMILY WAS BAFFLED AS TO HOW MATTHEW GOT SICK.
THEY HAD ALL BEEN IMMUNIZED.>>>>: I’M JUST GLAD THAT MY SON IS OVER IT.
>>>>JOANN: WHOOPING COUGH IS AN UPPER RESPIRATORY DISEASE THAT IN ADULTS MIMICS A BAD COLD,
BUT IN BABIES IT CAN BE DEADLY.>>>>: THE MOMENT I HEARD IT I IMMEDIATELY
STARTED THINKING THE WORST.>>>>JOANN: TEN BABIES DIED FROM WHOOPING
COUGH IN 2010, A TOTAL OF 9,000 PEOPLE GOT SICK MAKE IT THE WORST OUT BREAK IN CALIFORNIA
IN 60 YEARS. A DISEASE THAT HAD BEEN NEARLY WIPED OUT WITH
THE VACCINE DECADES AGO WAS MAKING A VENGEFUL COME BACK.
BEGGING THE QUESTION, WHY NOW. WHAT WE LEARNED MAY SURPRISE YOU OUR INVESTIGATION
FOUND THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO GOT WHOOPING COUGH IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY HAD BEEN UP TO DATE
WITH THEIR IMMUNIZATIONS. WE FOUND A SIMILAR TREND STATE WIDE.
OUR FINDINGS SUGGESTED THE VACCINE WAS FAILING AT N UNEXPECTED RATE.
BUT HEALTH OFFICIALS, EVEN PERTUSSIS EXPERTS WEREN’T BUYING IT.
>>>>: IT’S NOT A REFLECTION ON THE VACCINE.>>>>: THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE THAT
EITHER OF THE TWO VACCINES THAT ARE MOST COMMON TODAY IN USE IN THE U.S. THAT THERE’S INCREASED
VACCINE FAILED OF THOSE VACCINES.>>>>JOANN: THAT WAS THE COUNTRY’S LEADING
WHOOPING COUGH EXPERT DR.ﾊJAMES CHERRY IN 2010.
WE SAT DOWN WITH HIM RECENTLY AT UCLA’S CENTER FOR HEALTH SCIENCES.
>>>>: IN 2010 I THOUGHT CONTINUED BETTER OBSERVATION PLUS BERT TESTS.
MY FRIENDS AT THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH SORT OF SAYING VACCINE FAILURE
IS A MUCH BIGGER PART OF THIS AND I AGREE WITH THEM.
>>>>JOANN: STUD YES BY THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL
BOTH FOUND PROTECTION IN THE VACCINE WANED EARLIER THAN EXPECTED.
RESEARCHERS AT THE CDC SAY A NEW VACCINE, AN ACELLULAR VACCINE MAY BE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
IN 1997 THE U.S. SWITCHED FROM WHOLE SALE VACCINES TO ACELLULAR VACCINES BECAUSE THEY’RE
SAFER, BUT THEY MAY NOT BE AS EFFECTIVE. OTHER SCIENTISTS SAY A NEW MUTATE TD STRAIN
OF PERTUSSIS MAY BE AT FAULT. RAINY CHILDREN’S HOSPITAL DOCTOR AND A MEMBER
OF THE CDC ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR IMMUNIZATION PRACTICES.
>>>>: WE’RE SEEING WANING OVER TIME. COME UP WITH A VACCINE THAT HAS LONGER PROTECTION.
>>>>JOANN: CURRENTLY KIDS IN CALIFORNIA ARE REQUIRED TO GET SIX DOSES OF PERTUSSIS VACCINE,
AN ADDITIONAL BOOSTER WOULD MAKE IT SEVEN. SAWYER ADMITS THAT SEVENTH DOSE COULD CAUSE
SIGH EFFECTS, THINGS SUCH AS SWELLING AT THE INJECTION SITE OR FEVER AND THE PERTUSSIS
BOOSTER IS CURRENTLY FDA APPROVED FOR ONLY A SINGLE LIFETIME DOSE.
SAWYER SAYS GIVING MULTIPLE DOSES OF THE CURRENT VACCINE IS STILL THE BEST DEFENSE THEY’VE
GOT IF GOVERNMENT SAYS LET’S JUST GET ANOTHER BOOSTER, WHERE DOES THE PRESSURE COME FOR
INDUSTRY TO FINANCIALLY BE INCENTIVIZED TO MAKE A NEW VACCINE?
>>>>: WELL Y HOPE IT COMES FROM US, FROM US, THE PUBLIC.
>>>>JOANN: THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE WE FIRST MET THE BRYCE FAMILY NEARLY TWO YEARS AGO.
MARLIN, A RESERVIST IN THE MILITARY HAS BEEN DEPLOYED TO GERMANY FOR A YEAR.
>>>>: DADDY, WHEN YOU COME HOME FROM GERMANYﾊ>>>>JOANN: MARLIN BRYCE REFLECTS BACK ON
THE QUESTIONS HE HAD ABOUT THE VACCINE WHEN HIS SON FIRST GOT SICK.
>>>>: I’M JUST VERY, VERY HAPPY THAT HE’S HERE WITH US TODAY.
THE SAD THING IS THAT THERE’S SOME PARENTS OUT THERE TODAY THAT THEIR KIDS ARE NOT HERE
[ Speaking in Cherokee ] I know the problems the spread of illness
can cause native people. Each year,
more than 200,000 people are hospitalized with flu. Like all Americans, native
peoples and tribal communities need to protect themselves. Flu spreads mainly
from person to person through coughing or sneezing. MAN: [ Coughs ] WOMAN: Are you okay? MAN: I don’t know.
I — I just don’t know. STUDI:
People can also get infected by touching something
with flu viruses on it and then touching
their mouth or nose. Symptoms of flu can include
fever, cough, sore throat, runny nose, body aches,
headaches, chills, and sometimes
vomiting and diarrhea. There’s an old saying — “Take
two and call me in the morning.” But to protect yourself
against the flu, take three. It could save your life. The best way to protect yourself, your family,
and your community against flu is to get vaccinated. Ask your healthcare provider
for a seasonal flu vaccine as early as possible. WOMAN:
Let’s wash our hands, okay? STUDI: Wash your hands
with soap and water or use alcohol-based
hand cleaners frequently. WOMAN:
Get ’em really good in between
your fingers and the outsides. [ Chuckles ] STUDI: You can also
help reduce your risk of becoming ill with flu by staying away
from sick people. [ All coughing ] MAN:
I’ll get ahold of your wife, and we can take care of
the…cooking — the…um…wow. I really need to be going. I think
I’m gonna have to take off. STUDI:
If you’re sick, protect others by staying home
from work or school. Cover your coughs and sneezes
to avoid the spread of germs. Not everyone with the flu
will have a fever. Most people with the flu
have mild symptoms, but for others,
flu can be more serious. MAN: How are you
feeling there? MAN #2: Just lost
track of all time. MAN: [ Sighs ] Take care
of yourself. Get some rest. STUDI: When flu is widespread
across our communities, our priority is to treat people at highest risk for severe
disease as early as possible. WOMAN: [ Coughs ]
DOCTOR: We will treat you. But not to be alarmed, because
it won’t harm the pregnancy. STUDI: Pregnant women,
young children, the elderly, and people with chronic diseases like asthma, diabetes,
or heart disease are more likely to suffer
from serious complications. If you do get the flu, take medicines called antivirals
that can help. People at highest risk
for severe flu should receive antivirals
as soon as flu symptoms develop. DOCTOR: What other symptoms
are you having? WOMAN: [ Coughs ] I just — My throat hurts,
runny nose. I’m sneezing. I just —
I’m hot all the time. I just — I feel terrible. DOCTOR: We will treat you
with an antiviral medication. STUDI: They can make you
feel better faster or make your symptoms milder. WOMAN: How are you feeling,
I’m feeling great. STUDI:
Protect yourself, your family, and your community from the flu. Get vaccinated every year. Cover your coughs and sneezes,
wash your hands often, and if you’re sick, stay home. Protect the circle of life.
Know the facts about the flu. [ Speaking in Cherokee ]
Getting a flu vaccine each year is the
first and most important step in protecting against the flu. Flu is a
serious illness that can make people miss work, not be able to care for their
family or even put them in the hospital. People in the US die from the flu
every year. Every one six months of age or older should get flu vaccine. It’s
covered by most insurance, including the Oregon Health Plan. It takes up to two
weeks for your body to protect itself after getting the vaccine so now is the
best time to get vaccinated. For people at higher risk, like older adults and
people with asthma, diabetes or heart and lung disease, flu vaccine is so important.
It can lower their risk of severe flu illness and prevent many health problems
that can come from having the flu. For more information visit flu.oregon.gov
Quick story I wanted to do before we went
to break, remember when we had Seth Mnookin on the show and he talked about this MMR vaccine
hoax where a study had been done by a doctor, Andrew Wakefield, a gastroenterologist, and
he was giving the idea that there may be, there may be a link between autism and children
and getting the MMR vaccine? Of course, the study was a complete hoax, there was no link
at least in those children, in that study. It doesn’t completely rule out the possibility
of it existing, but again, there’s no evidence to suggest that it does. You remember this
story? Louis: I remember, yes. David: Now… Louis: I remember you… you defending the
fact that it was a hoax, like very passionately. David: Defending the fact that it was a hoax.
In other words, I was agreeing it’s a hoax. Louis: You said… I think you said it was
definitely a hoax. David: Right, yeah, and we talked to Seth
and we heard all about it. And again, that particular study was a hoax. Well, that, the
lack of… or, in other words, there have been some anti-vaccination groups that have
cropped up. And in California, it has actually lead to the worst whooping cough outbreak
in more than 50 years. It’s killed 10 infants, it’s reported in 6400 cases, and in part,
it’s due to this lack of vaccination that some parents are choosing to do. Now, where do we… where are we going with
this? What’s the news on this? The news is that now there is a proposal to slash millions
of dollars in federal funding for vaccination/immunization programs. Republicans in Congress have proposed
it. The House GOP’s 2011 budget would chop about $150 million from the CDC’s funding
for immunization and respiratory diseases. The reductions are likely to hit the CDC’s
support for state and local programs, the agency’s ability to evaluate which vaccines
are working and its work to educate the public about vaccine recommendations for children
are on the chopping block here, OK? And Dr. Georges Benjamin, who’s the executive
director of the American Public Health Association, says when there’s less money, fewer kids get
vaccinated. It’s very simple. Children of the working poor who don’t qualify for Medicaid
are going to be particularly exposed here. They’re going to have a hard time getting
vaccinated against measles or the flu. And many groups actually want that. In other
words, there are many anti-vaccination groups who want less vaccination for children, even
if it does lead to whooping cough and 10 infants in California dying from something that nobody
should be dying from. Louis: Right, but the groups… the groups
want less vaccinations for children because they believe vaccinations can be harmful,
right? David: They believe a whole number of things
including that, yes. Louis: I mean, it’s not really a financial
thing. David: No, no, no. Louis: I mean, why is the GOP trying to implement
this? David: Well, the GOP is cutting things from
all the wrong places, as we know. And then… Louis: So this has nothing to do with their
social agenda, this is… David: I am not saying that the GOP is littered
with these anti-vaccination conspiracy theorists, absolutely. No, this is just one of those
areas that the GOP says well… Louis: Plain and simple, just a poor place
to try and cut spending? David: Exactly. Instead of let’s close some
Army bases in Germany… Louis: And they just happen to have all of
these groups backing them? Backing their… David: The… well, it is two separate things.
Where I’m kind of putting it in context here for our audience, behind the scenes, you know
what? That’s a good… I should’ve researched, are some of the individuals who are proposing
cutting this funding funded by any of these lobbies that are really out there to cast
doubt and scare parents about vaccinations? It’s a good question, I haven’t looked into
it. I’d be curious what the results were. Louis: You should look into that. David: But the point here, ladies and gentlemen,
is number one, more cutting in all the wrong places, and number two, conspiracy theories
and this constant double-standard, or, rather, double-standard or inconsistent standard for
conspiracy theories and proving versus having to positively disprove them. Louis: The cutting the Democrats want to do,
I mean, we haven’t seen many better ideas coming from the other side either. David: No, I… Louis: All around it’s pretty bad. David: The cutting that is being proposed,
it’s not so much that it’s… it is bad in many cases, but the fact that on the whole
both sides are completely bought by the interests that make them keep the bases open, keep the
money flowing from corporate interests, we’ve said it over and over again. Let’s go to break
and we’ll come back and talk about something else before we get Louis wound up again as
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